{"id":373,"date":"2012-08-22T10:07:08","date_gmt":"2012-08-22T17:07:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.rodsawatsky.com\/?p=373"},"modified":"2012-08-22T10:09:18","modified_gmt":"2012-08-22T17:09:18","slug":"no-one-saw-god-except-jesus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.rodsawatsky.com\/?p=373","title":{"rendered":"No one &#8220;saw&#8221; God except Jesus"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Copied comment by Tim Cooper on a blog post by Steve Sensenick at beyondthebox that discusses our view of inerrancy of scripture. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theologicalmusingsblog.com\/2011\/05\/16\/the-unfortunate-side-effects-of-the-doctrine-of-inspiration\/#comments\">Link here<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>John the Baptist boldly heralds the arrival of Jesus with an earth<br \/>\nshattering statement. In the face of all the great scholars of his time,<br \/>\nIn the face of the Sadducee\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s and Pharisees unsurpassed knowledge of<br \/>\nscripture the Baptist rips apart their theology in one sentence\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"bibleref\" title=\"NASB John 1:18\" href=\"http:\/\/biblegateway.com\/bible?version=49&amp;passage=John+1%3A18\">John 1:18<\/a> No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.<\/p>\n<p>Have we overlooked the significance of this proclamation? The Greek<br \/>\nword for \u00e2\u20ac\u0153seen\u00e2\u20ac\u009d in the above verse means; (to know by experience, to<br \/>\nperceive or to be acquainted with). John the Baptist just dropped an<br \/>\natom bomb! He flat out told those that memorized the first five books of<br \/>\nthe Bible that they did NOT know God!<\/p>\n<p>For the first seventeen verses of Chapter One the apostle John gives<br \/>\nus a history lesson, a mini Bible as he sees it. Then he finishes with a<br \/>\nquote from John the Baptist, \u00e2\u20ac\u0153No man has seen (to know by experience,<br \/>\nto perceive or to be acquainted with) God\u00e2\u20ac\u009d. John is telling us that up<br \/>\nuntil this point in history no one really knew God. Jesus His Son had<br \/>\narrived to declare and reveal the Father\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s true nature to mankind. When<br \/>\nJohn the Baptist said NO ONE knew God, did he mean it? Was John<br \/>\n\u00e2\u20ac\u0153inspired\u00e2\u20ac\u009d by God when he said it? When John said NO ONE had a clear<br \/>\npicture of who God was, wouldn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t that include the Old Testament writers?<br \/>\nIf this were just one isolated verse we could possibly explain it away<br \/>\nor symbolize it but the problem is it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not an isolated verse, it is<br \/>\nrepeated over and over by Jesus himself.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"bibleref\" title=\"NASB John 5:37\" href=\"http:\/\/biblegateway.com\/bible?version=49&amp;passage=John+5%3A37\">John 5:37<\/a><br \/>\nAnd the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me.<br \/>\nYe have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.<\/p>\n<p>John the Baptist proclaims to the world that NO ONE knew God before<br \/>\nJesus and here we see Jesus confirming John\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s message. NO ONE had fully<br \/>\nand completely heard or seen God before Jesus Christ<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"bibleref\" title=\"NASB John 17:25\" href=\"http:\/\/biblegateway.com\/bible?version=49&amp;passage=John+17%3A25\">John 17:25<\/a><br \/>\nO righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known<br \/>\nthee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. 26 And I have<br \/>\ndeclared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love<br \/>\nwherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.<\/p>\n<p>Whenever the word \u00e2\u20ac\u0153name\u00e2\u20ac\u009d is used in Hebrew it simply means nature or<br \/>\ncharacter. So when Jesus says; I will declare your name, He is saying I<br \/>\nwill declare (who you are). The fall had so blinded us and so twisted<br \/>\nour nature that it was impossible to see God clearly. Jesus is the light<br \/>\nthat came to help us see God for who He truly is. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153The world has not<br \/>\nknown you, but I have and I will declare to them who you are!\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"bibleref\" title=\"NASB John 8:19\" href=\"http:\/\/biblegateway.com\/bible?version=49&amp;passage=John+8%3A19\">John 8:19<\/a><br \/>\nThen said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered; Ye<br \/>\nneither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known<br \/>\nmy Father also.<\/p>\n<p>If you know Me, you would know the Father. Or we could flip this<br \/>\naround and say if you don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t know Jesus you don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t really know the Father.<br \/>\nDid the Old Testament writers know Jesus as well as a born again<br \/>\nbeliever? Jesus Himself said that the least in the Kingdom of God is<br \/>\ngreater than the greatest Old Testament prophet. \u00e2\u20ac\u201c Selah<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"bibleref\" title=\"NASB Mark 12:24\" href=\"http:\/\/biblegateway.com\/bible?version=49&amp;passage=Mark+12%3A24\">Mark 12:24<\/a> And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?<\/p>\n<p>Was Jesus actually saying that they didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t know the scriptures? Most<br \/>\nscholars agree and Jesus knew that this group of people did know the<br \/>\nscriptures from mans point of view. But once again He was telling them<br \/>\nthey didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t really see, they still believed the lie and thus remained<br \/>\nbehind a veil.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"bibleref\" title=\"NASB John 6:46\" href=\"http:\/\/biblegateway.com\/bible?version=49&amp;passage=John+6%3A46\">John 6:46<\/a> Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father.<\/p>\n<p>What will it take before Christians agree with Jesus and simply say<br \/>\nthat NO ONE really knew God before He showed up? Is it possible we have<br \/>\nlet the writers of the Old Testament actually trump what Jesus said?<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"bibleref\" title=\"NASB John 5:39\" href=\"http:\/\/biblegateway.com\/bible?version=49&amp;passage=John+5%3A39\">John 5:39<\/a><br \/>\nSearch the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and<br \/>\nthey are they which testify of me. 40 And ye will not come to me, that<br \/>\nye might have life<\/p>\n<p>Have we as New Testament believers become like the Pharisees and<br \/>\nSadducees? Will we remain behind a veil that Christ Himself removed?<br \/>\nWill we give as much weight to the Old Testament writers as we do to<br \/>\nJesus Himself?<\/p>\n<p>Over and over we are told no one really knew God, no one saw Gods<br \/>\ntrue nature. Jesus was here to clear that up, the express image telling<br \/>\nus that if we have seen Him we have seen the Father. Jesus was here to<br \/>\ntell us He didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t do or say anything He didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t see the Father do. The<br \/>\nWord, God in flesh was here to say; look at Me, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m it. I am what you<br \/>\nhave been looking for in the scriptures. I am here in bodily form to<br \/>\nshow you exactly what I am like. All things written before, all things<br \/>\nseen before are just shadows; you did not see me clearly. Here, I AM.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Copied comment by Tim Cooper on a blog post by Steve Sensenick at beyondthebox that discusses our view of inerrancy of scripture. Link here &nbsp; John the Baptist boldly heralds the arrival of Jesus with an earth shattering statement. 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